{"id":17042,"date":"2010-09-26T12:39:00","date_gmt":"2010-09-26T16:39:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/fryeblog.blog.lib.mcmaster.ca\/?p=17042"},"modified":"2010-09-26T12:39:00","modified_gmt":"2010-09-26T16:39:00","slug":"frye-on-islam-and-the-koran","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/macblog.mcmaster.ca\/fryeblog\/2010\/09\/26\/frye-on-islam-and-the-koran\/","title":{"rendered":"Frye on Islam and the Koran"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/macblog.mcmaster.ca\/fryeblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2010\/09\/koran.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17044\" src=\"http:\/\/macblog.mcmaster.ca\/fryeblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2010\/09\/koran.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"350\" height=\"262\" srcset=\"https:\/\/macblog.mcmaster.ca\/fryeblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2010\/09\/koran.jpg 350w, https:\/\/macblog.mcmaster.ca\/fryeblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2010\/09\/koran-300x224.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 350px) 100vw, 350px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><em>A page from the Koran, ca. 800<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Further to an earlier <a href=\"http:\/\/fryeblog.blog.lib.mcmaster.ca\/2010\/09\/24\/mohammed\/\" target=\"_blank\">post<\/a>, Bob Denham has compiled a collection of quotes on Islam and the Koran which can be found in the Denham Library <a href=\"http:\/\/fryeblog.blog.lib.mcmaster.ca\/frye-on-the-koran-and-islam\/\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Below is a selection on Judaism, Christianity and Islam:<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>[69]\u00a0 In my R.K. [Religious Knowledge] course is a clever &amp; plausible remark about the Koran: suras arranged in order of length only means that if the Koran is the Word of God, God doesn\u2019t give a damn about narrative sequence.\u00a0 Hence the rise of narrative literature and of causality structures (science) in the Christian culture founded on the Bible.\u00a0 There may be still something in this; but it may be balls too.\u00a0 After sura 1, an obvious opening invocation, sura 2 outlines the same old fall-exodus recapitulation, sura 3 adds Xy [Christianity] to it; sura 4 deals with points of law like Leviticus, and so on.\u00a0 It\u2019s just possible that the length-order is the right one, moving from a sort of East Coker laying down of the law, in roughly continuous prose, toward a shower of lyrical apocalyptic sparks, charms, riddles, curses, etc. (<em>Northrop Frye\u2019s Notebooks on the Bible<\/em>, CW 13, 85)<\/p>\n<p>[310]\u00a0 Sex books in a bookshop are not there to tell you anything you don\u2019t know; they\u2019re there to keep your mind on the subject.\u00a0 Similarly with devotional literature, Christian &amp; Marxist.\u00a0 Myths of concern [?]-clouds.\u00a0 This is an extension of the dissociation-by-repetition principle (95\u20136 on the Koran [par. 294]) that repetition charges the emotional batteries &amp; suspends the critical faculties.\u00a0 What I tell you three times is true.\u00a0 What I tell you three hundred times is profoundly true. (<em>Northrop Frye\u2019s Notebooks on the Bible<\/em>, CW 13, 198)<\/p>\n<p>[349]\u00a0 Just as in the Bible we cannot distinguish the voice of God from the voice of the Deteronomic redactor, so in the Koran we cannot distinguish the voice of the angel Gabriel from the voice of Mohammed in a bad temper. (<em>Northrop Frye\u2019s Notebooks on the Bible<\/em>, CW 13, 205)<\/p>\n<p>[353]\u00a0 Resurrection, the opposite of rebirth, is the genuine form of reincarnation.\u00a0 In accepting incarnation Xy establishes the <em>pattern <\/em>of resurrection which (for instance) Islam doesn\u2019t have. (<em>Northrop Frye\u2019s Notebooks on the Bible<\/em>, CW 13, 206)<\/p>\n<p>[22]\u00a0 Xy absorbed so much that Judaism (like Islam later) excluded.\u00a0 The internalized imagery of the ancient cave returned in the cathedral, whereas the Holy of Holies remained dark: the Mother returned in far greater force, along with the dying god: the totemic identification of human &amp; animal victim is kept separate in the Akeda [binding of Isaac] and Passover: the blood sacrifice is similarly absorbed into the harvest-vintage ones.\u00a0 In short, there\u2019s a real catholicity that gives it the resources of a world religion.\u00a0 It has the power to transcend itself: Judaism hasn\u2019t.\u00a0 More accurately, and gratefully, it did transcend itself in the Christian Word &amp; Spirit (NOT the Church). (<em>Northrop Frye\u2019s Notebooks on the Bible<\/em>, CW 13, 370)<\/p>\n<p>So the narrative unity of the Bible, which is there in spite of the miscellaneous nature of its content, was something that I stressed.\u00a0 And that concern for narrative seems to me to be distinctive of the Bible among other sacred books.\u00a0 In the Koran, for example, the revelations of Mohammed were gathered up after his death and arranged in order of length, which suggests that revelation in the Koran pays no attention to narrative continuity\u2014that\u2019s not what it is interested in.\u00a0 But the fact that the Bible <em>is<\/em> interested in it seems to be significant for the study of literature and for many other reasons. (\u201cSymbolism of the Bible,\u201d <em>Northrop Frye\u2019s Notebooks on the Bible<\/em>, CW 13, 418)<\/p>\n<p>The New Testament was written in Greek by writers whose native language probably was not Greek.\u00a0 The kind of Greek they wrote was called <em>koine<\/em>, the popular Greek which was distributed all through the Near Eastern countries as a kind of common language.\u00a0 The writers of the New Testament may have been familiar to differing degrees with the Hebrew text of the Old Testament, but when they quoted from the Old Testament they tended to use the Septuagint.\u00a0 And that is the beginning of a principle which is rather important for the history of Christianity.\u00a0 In any sacred book, there is enough concentration in the writing, and enough attention paid to it by those who accept it as sacred, for the linguistic characteristics of the original language to be of great importance.\u00a0 Any Jewish interpretation or commentary on the Hebrew Old Testament inevitably takes great care to study the linguistic nuances of the Hebrew original, and similarly with the Koran, which is so bound up with the linguistic characteristics of Arabic that in practice the Arabic language has had to go everywhere that the Islamic religion has gone. (\u201cSymbolism of the Bible,\u201d <em>Northrop Frye\u2019s Notebooks on the Bible<\/em>, CW 13, 419)<\/p>\n<p>The Exodus gives to the Biblical religions that curiously revolutionary quality which Judaism and Christianity and Islam all have to some degree: and we saw that a nation which has gone through that kind of revolutionary experience becomes a nation with a very strong sense of its own corporate unity because of the experience which its people have shared.\u00a0 Thus, law becomes really the antitype of the birth of Israel at the deliverance from Egypt, or the reality to which it points. (\u201cSymbolism of the Bible,\u201d <em>Northrop Frye\u2019s Notebooks on the Bible<\/em>, CW 13, 584\u20135)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A page from the Koran, ca. 800 Further to an earlier post, Bob Denham has compiled a collection of quotes on Islam and the Koran which can be found in the Denham Library here. 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