{"id":2155,"date":"2009-09-09T17:29:15","date_gmt":"2009-09-09T21:29:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/fryeblog.blog.lib.mcmaster.ca\/?p=2155"},"modified":"2009-09-09T17:29:15","modified_gmt":"2009-09-09T21:29:15","slug":"michael-sinding-frye-bloom-white-jameson","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/macblog.mcmaster.ca\/fryeblog\/2009\/09\/09\/michael-sinding-frye-bloom-white-jameson\/","title":{"rendered":"Michael Sinding: Frye, Bloom, White, Jameson"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-2156\" src=\"http:\/\/macblog.mcmaster.ca\/fryeblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2009\/09\/pu.jpg\" alt=\"pu\" width=\"196\" height=\"300\" \/><\/p>\n<p>To the discussion about Bloom and Jameson from <a href=\"http:\/\/fryeblog.blog.lib.mcmaster.ca\/2009\/09\/08\/jonathan-allan-on-disciples\/\" target=\"_blank\">Jonathan Allan<\/a>, Russell Perkin, and others, I\u2019d add that since Bloom is at least as out as Frye, I don\u2019t know how much Bloom\u2019s distancing from Frye counts in Frye\u2019s distance from the current scene. (Being irrelevant to Bloom is kind of a double-negative, like Don Quixote saying everyone ELSE is deluded.) Not that I have much to back this up with, but my sense is that Bloom\u2019s theory was never really in, didn\u2019t change the landscape, at least not as Frye did. Maybe he\u2019s suffering the anxiety of his own lack-of-influence. I\u2019m not sure if this disagrees with <a href=\"http:\/\/fryeblog.blog.lib.mcmaster.ca\/2009\/09\/09\/frye-bloom-and-wilde\/\" target=\"_blank\">Russell\u2019s note<\/a>. A book may be indispensable for specialists without being greatly influential in terms of big pictures and long runs.<\/p>\n<p>On this note, I have to wonder, why was <a href=\"http:\/\/www.flipkart.com\/anatomy-criticism-northrop-frye-harold\/0691069999-53w3f9hw7w\" target=\"_blank\">Bloom chosen to introduce the <em>Anatomy<\/em><\/a>? Why not someone like <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Hayden_White\" target=\"_blank\">Hayden White<\/a>, who\u2019s pretty clear about Frye\u2019s value, not so self-regarding, and still relevant himself?<\/p>\n<p>On another note, the <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Fredric_Jameson\" target=\"_blank\">Jameson<\/a> connection is also important. But can we call him an early disciple? I didn\u2019t get that impression from <a href=\"http:\/\/books.google.ca\/books?id=9xE6vLE71yUC&amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;dq=jameson+political+unconscious&amp;ei=Vx2oSqXlMZvQNPPskZwK#v=onepage&amp;q=&amp;f=false\" target=\"_blank\"><em>The Political Unconscious<\/em><\/a>, where he\u2019s already distant from Frye. But I don\u2019t know much about Jameson outside of that. His argument in PU is intriguingly baroque\u2014the systems of Frye and <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Propp\" target=\"_blank\">Propp<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Greimas\" target=\"_blank\">Greimas<\/a> are all spun so that again, eureka, \u2018everything fits together\u2019 in the dialectic. Jameson\u2019s criticism of Frye there is interesting, and might be worth getting into at some point, for itself, and as an indicator of attitudes to Frye. I\u2019d be curious to know if there are different reasons for distancing in Jameson\u2019s utopia book.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>To the discussion about Bloom and Jameson from Jonathan Allan, Russell Perkin, and others, I\u2019d add that since Bloom is at least as out as Frye, I don\u2019t know how much Bloom\u2019s distancing from Frye counts in Frye\u2019s distance from the current scene. 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