{"id":24159,"date":"2011-06-22T19:39:02","date_gmt":"2011-06-22T23:39:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/fryeblog.blog.lib.mcmaster.ca\/?p=24159"},"modified":"2011-06-22T19:39:02","modified_gmt":"2011-06-22T23:39:02","slug":"robert-kroetsch-and-northrop-frye","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/macblog.mcmaster.ca\/fryeblog\/2011\/06\/22\/robert-kroetsch-and-northrop-frye\/","title":{"rendered":"Robert Kroetsch"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-24160\" src=\"http:\/\/macblog.mcmaster.ca\/fryeblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2011\/06\/kroetsch.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"196\" height=\"300\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Robert Kroetsch died in a car accident <a href=\"http:\/\/arts.nationalpost.com\/2011\/06\/22\/canadian-writer-robert-kroetsch-killed-in-car-accident\/\" target=\"_blank\">today<\/a>. Below is a reposting of Matthew Griffin&#8217;s September 12th 2009 post, &#8220;Influence without Anxiety&#8221;<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>While much of the discussion on this blog has revolved around how Frye has been an influence on other critics, I think it also worth remembering his potent effect on novelists and poets as well. A reflection on what it is to write and to think about literature that has been formative for me is\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com\/index.cfm?PgNm=TCE&amp;Params=A1ARTA0004379\" target=\"_blank\">Robert Kroetsch&#8217;s <\/a>essay, &#8220;Learning the Hero from Northrop Frye&#8221; (It&#8217;s perhaps easiest to find in\u00a0<em><a href=\"http:\/\/books.google.ca\/books?id=Et1ZAAAAMAAJ&amp;q=The+Lovely+Treachery+of+Words&amp;dq=The+Lovely+Treachery+of+Words&amp;ei=2r-rSvH2N5-SMvXP3M8N\" target=\"_blank\">The Lovely Treachery of Words<\/a>: Essays Selected and New<\/em>.\u00a0 Don Mills: Oxford, 1989. 151-162.)\u00a0 While we&#8217;d do well to remember an axiom from the Polemical Introduction, that the author &#8220;has a peculiar interest, but not a peculiar authority&#8221; as a critic of the author&#8217;s own work (CW 29: 7), Kroetsch writes that it was an encounter with Frye&#8217;s thought &#8220;that exhausted me into language&#8221; (151). He describes giving a seminar on Milton, using the just published\u00a0<em>Anatomy of Criticism<\/em> as his &#8220;critical starting point,&#8221; only to be asked what the ideas therein were all about (154). Kroetsch describes his answer as follows:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I began, in answering that request, to talk about the hero, the nature of the hero, in literature, in the modern world, in my Canadian world, and in a way I haven&#8217;t stopped, and here, today, thirty years later, I&#8217;m still giving the report, though now Northrop Frye himself has become the hero under discussion, a peculiarly Canadian hero, in a modern world that has assigned to critics and theorists a hero&#8217;s many tasks.\u00a0 We live at a time when the young critic as tram faces the uncomfortable fate of becoming the old critic as god. (154)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Kroetsch&#8217;s essay marvels at just what influence Kroetsch has had on Canadian writing in particular, before finally concluding of Frye, that in &#8220;his collected criticism, he locates the poetry of our unlocatable poem.\u00a0 In talking about that poem, he becomes our epic poet. Grazie&#8221; (161).<\/p>\n<p>Perhaps in this idea is fodder for our own reflections about how we might relax our own anxieties of influence, and look to see Frye&#8217;s impact upon writers beyond the sphere of criticism proper?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Robert Kroetsch died in a car accident today. 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