{"id":27804,"date":"2011-11-09T00:00:03","date_gmt":"2011-11-09T05:00:03","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/fryeblog.blog.lib.mcmaster.ca\/?p=27804"},"modified":"2011-11-09T00:00:03","modified_gmt":"2011-11-09T05:00:03","slug":"quote-of-the-day-bloom-frye-and-value-judgements","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/macblog.mcmaster.ca\/fryeblog\/2011\/11\/09\/quote-of-the-day-bloom-frye-and-value-judgements\/","title":{"rendered":"Bloom, Frye and Value Judgments"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-27805\" src=\"http:\/\/macblog.mcmaster.ca\/fryeblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2011\/11\/AnatomyOfCriticism.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"187\" height=\"280\" srcset=\"https:\/\/macblog.mcmaster.ca\/fryeblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2011\/11\/AnatomyOfCriticism.jpg 267w, https:\/\/macblog.mcmaster.ca\/fryeblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2011\/11\/AnatomyOfCriticism-200x300.jpg 200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 187px) 100vw, 187px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&#8220;That was my basic quarrel with my former mentor Northrop Frye. He thinks that evaluation has nothing to do with literary criticism. I would tell him, no, it is not true.&#8221; &#8212;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.todayszaman.com\/news-261998-harold-bloom-influence-is-just-another-word-for-influence.html\" target=\"_blank\"> Harold Bloom<\/a> in an interview published over the weekend perpetuates his <em>agon<\/em> with Frye upon which he seems to have staked his reputation and legacy.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s Frye in <em>Anatomy<\/em>\u00a0addressing the issue of value judgments in a way that uncannily predicts where Bloom&#8217;s own criticism would eventually end up:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The first step in developing a genuine poetics is to recognize and get rid of meaningless criticism, or talking about literature in a way that cannot help to build up a systematic structure of knowledge. This includes all the sonorous nonsense that we so often find in critical generalities, reflective comments, ideological perorations, and other consequences of taking a long view of an\u00a0unorganized\u00a0subject. It includes all lists of the &#8220;best&#8221; novels or poems or writers, whether their particular virtue is exclusiveness or inclusiveness. It includes all casual, sentimental, and prejudiced value judgments, and all the literary chit-chat which makes the reputations of poets boom and crash in an imaginary stock exchange. (CW 22, 19)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Previous posts on Bloom<a href=\"http:\/\/fryeblog.blog.lib.mcmaster.ca\/2011\/09\/06\/more-frye-and-bloom\/\" target=\"_blank\"> here<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/fryeblog.blog.lib.mcmaster.ca\/2011\/09\/05\/the-scholar%E2%80%99s-anxiety\/\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/fryeblog.blog.lib.mcmaster.ca\/2011\/09\/02\/the-influence-of-anxiety\/\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/fryeblog.blog.lib.mcmaster.ca\/2011\/08\/31\/quote-of-the-day-harold-bloom-on-literary-criticism\/\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/fryeblog.blog.lib.mcmaster.ca\/2011\/07\/13\/frye-alert-anatomies\/\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>,<a href=\"http:\/\/fryeblog.blog.lib.mcmaster.ca\/2011\/06\/01\/video-of-the-day-harold-bloom-interviewed-by-the-new-york-times\/\" target=\"_blank\"> here<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/fryeblog.blog.lib.mcmaster.ca\/2011\/05\/25\/new-on-the-shelf-harold-blooms-the-anatomy-of-influence\/\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/fryeblog.blog.lib.mcmaster.ca\/2011\/05\/15\/frye-alert-anatomy-of-influence\/\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/fryeblog.blog.lib.mcmaster.ca\/2010\/07\/11\/harold-bloom\/\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/fryeblog.blog.lib.mcmaster.ca\/2010\/05\/15\/quote-of-the-day-16\/\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/fryeblog.blog.lib.mcmaster.ca\/2009\/12\/14\/jonathan-allan-frye-and-bloom\/\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/fryeblog.blog.lib.mcmaster.ca\/2009\/12\/14\/our-chief-whipping-boys-will-be-harold-bloom-and-northrop-frye\/\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/fryeblog.blog.lib.mcmaster.ca\/2009\/09\/09\/michael-sinding-frye-bloom-white-jameson\/\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/fryeblog.blog.lib.mcmaster.ca\/2009\/09\/09\/frye-and-bloom\/\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>, and\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/fryeblog.blog.lib.mcmaster.ca\/2009\/09\/08\/jonathan-allan-on-disciples\/\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>. That&#8217;s a lot of posts, it turns out. We&#8217;ll set up a Harold Bloom category to make it easier.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;That was my basic quarrel with my former mentor Northrop Frye. He thinks that evaluation has nothing to do with literary criticism. 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