{"id":3325,"date":"2009-09-29T00:26:37","date_gmt":"2009-09-29T04:26:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/fryeblog.blog.lib.mcmaster.ca\/?p=3325"},"modified":"2009-09-29T00:26:37","modified_gmt":"2009-09-29T04:26:37","slug":"yves-st-cyr-the-quotable-northrop-frye","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/macblog.mcmaster.ca\/fryeblog\/2009\/09\/29\/yves-st-cyr-the-quotable-northrop-frye\/","title":{"rendered":"Yves St. Cyr: The Quotable Northrop Frye"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: left\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-3326\" src=\"http:\/\/macblog.mcmaster.ca\/fryeblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2009\/09\/nf.jpg\" alt=\"nf\" width=\"250\" height=\"248\" srcset=\"https:\/\/macblog.mcmaster.ca\/fryeblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2009\/09\/nf.jpg 250w, https:\/\/macblog.mcmaster.ca\/fryeblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2009\/09\/nf-150x150.jpg 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 250px) 100vw, 250px\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\"><em><strong>Selected Quotes from<\/strong><\/em> <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/books.google.ca\/books?id=v_8ZAQAAIAAJ&amp;q=interviews+with+northrop+frye&amp;dq=interviews+with+northrop+frye\" target=\"_blank\">Interviews with Northrop Frye<\/a><em>, ed. Jean O\u2019Grady, U of Toronto P, 2008<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>This superb collection of 111 interviews, compiled and edited by Jean O\u2019Grady as part of the <em>Collected Works<\/em>, brings together for the first time all surviving records of Frye interviews from television, film, radio, conferences, journals, and magazines.\u00a0 The range of topics covered includes literature; theory of literary criticism; Canadian culture, arts, and media; pedagogical theory (pre-school, primary, secondary, and university); the Bible and religion; and autobiographical reminiscences.\u00a0 Below, I offer a selection of quotations from the collection, variously chosen on the basis of eloquence, wit, or erudition.\u00a0 My hope is that these teasers will prompt those who follow this blog to purchase or borrow their own copies of <em>Interviews with Northrop Frye<\/em>, thus enriching our collective and on-going effort to understand Frye\u2019s mind and character.<\/p>\n<p><em><!--more--><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>On the definition of terms (4):<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Sinclair: [&#8230;] are you prepared to offer us a definition of conversation?<\/p>\n<p>Frye: Certainly not, Mr. Chairman.\u00a0 A literary critic of experience never defines anything.<\/p>\n<p><em>\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>On Canadian poetry (298):<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Cook: What would make a poem Canadian? [&#8230;] If it was full of pine trees, as the paintings of the Group of Seven are, would that make it Canadian?<\/p>\n<p>Frye: No, and neither do pine trees in the Group of Seven. [&#8230;] You\u2019re not being Australian if you write a story about a boomerang and a kangaroo, and you\u2019re not being Canadian if you write about a Mountie and a beaver.<\/p>\n<p><em>On the argument that universities have to be \u2018relevant\u2019 (300):<\/em><\/p>\n<p>My opinion of that argument is something that would involve some mechanical interference with this program.<\/p>\n<p><em>On graduate teaching (301, 597, 644):<\/em><\/p>\n<p>I can only reconcile myself to graduate teaching by treating them exactly like undergraduates.<\/p>\n<p><em>\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>On the <\/em><em>CBC<\/em><em> (304):<\/em><\/p>\n<p>We seem to keep coming back to some kind of gigantic amoeba in the middle of the CBC.\u00a0 That is, a large coagulated mass of primitive life, which seems to be blocking every kind of creative endeavour.<\/p>\n<p><em>On autobiography (316):<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&#8230;everything I write <em>I<\/em> consider autobiography, although nobody else would.<\/p>\n<p><em>On underestimating one\u2019s audience (341):<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Oliver: &#8230;I recall Johnny Bassett once telling me that one should pitch one\u2019s TV scripts at the level of a Saskatchewan farmer.<\/p>\n<p>Frye: I had a mission field one summer in Saskatchewan and I got a rather high impression of the intelligence of Saskatchewan farmers.<\/p>\n<p><em>On Qu\u00e9bec separatism (353):<\/em><\/p>\n<p>My own view is that culturally [Canadians are] all instinctively separatists.<\/p>\n<p><em>On the \u2018Frye in the sky\u2019 painting hanging in the E.J. Pratt Library (361):<\/em><\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t particularly like that picture of me.\u00a0 There are jokes about Frye having no visible means of support.<\/p>\n<p><em>On Jungian archetypes (406-407, see also 779):<\/em><\/p>\n<p>I didn\u2019t really realize at the time [of the writing of <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">Anatomy of Criticism<\/span>] how much Jung had cornered the field with his use of archetype in his own highly idiosyncratic sense.\u00a0 Jung is a psychologist whose private myth is a myth of individuation [&#8230;].\u00a0 [W]hen you move from the ego to the individual, a number of autonomous forces are let loose in the psyche, and these he calls archetypes.\u00a0 He knows how to use illustrative material from literature in such a way as to suggest that the whole of literature is a gigantic allegory of the Jungian individuation process.\u00a0 Well, that\u2019s all right \u2013 that\u2019s his business.\u00a0 It\u2019s his own use of archetype; it\u2019s not mine.<\/p>\n<p><em>On literacy (407-408, see also 690, 747, 748):<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Cowan: There is a lot of talk about a crisis in literacy.\u00a0 Do you think there is such a thing?<\/p>\n<p>Frye: I hope so.\u00a0 I think there\u2019s always a crisis in literacy. [&#8230;] [T]he humanities always have their backs to the wall. [&#8230;] The teaching of literature is a militant activity.\u00a0 It\u2019s carried on in the teeth of ignorance and stupidity and prejudice.<\/p>\n<p><em>On Pelham Edgar (413):<\/em><\/p>\n<p>When I was an undergraduate I had a teacher, Pelham Edgar, who had X-ray eyes, and he took one look at me and decided I had to write a paper on Blake for his seminar.<\/p>\n<p><em>On <\/em>Anatomy of Criticism<em>\u2019s Polemical Introduction (414):<\/em><\/p>\n<p>I thought the only way to get into this action was to start a long preliminary bombardment.\u00a0 When the British army did that at Gallipoli it was a disaster, but I think that in intellectual circles it is probably the best procedure.<\/p>\n<p><em>\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>On becoming a University Professor (441):<\/em><\/p>\n<p>It gets me out of departmental meetings, for one thing.\u00a0 I always feel that the university is a very paradisal community if you cut out meetings.<\/p>\n<p><em>On the possibility of extra-terrestrial life (447):<\/em><\/p>\n<p>It would be discouraging to think that the mob of psychotic monkeys on this planet is the best that the universe is capable of as far as sentient life goes.<\/p>\n<p><em>On university efficiency (606):<\/em><\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t think the university ought to be an efficient organization [&#8230;]; it\u2019s misconceived its whole aim and social function if it is.<\/p>\n<p><em>On the reception of <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">The Great Code<\/span> (680):<\/em><\/p>\n<p>I think the twentieth century, brutal and bloody as it is, is perhaps the first century in which I could write a book like <em>The Great Code<\/em>.\u00a0 In the sixteenth century I would have been burned alive by the first person who got hold of me, whether Catholic or Protestant.\u00a0 The seventeenth century wouldn\u2019t be very different.\u00a0 In the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, a book as uncommitted as mine sounds would have raised a tremendous storm of irrelevant emotions.<\/p>\n<p><em>On obvious questions (699):<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Frye: I feel the image invoked by other [verbal] formulations would be coloured by the differences in those other formulations.<\/p>\n<p>Esrock: Want to comment on what it means to be \u2018coloured by\u2019?<\/p>\n<p>Frye: Well, a red image is different from a green image.<\/p>\n<p>Esrock: That\u2019s cheating.<\/p>\n<p>Frye: Is it?<\/p>\n<p><em>On the relationship between thought and language (746):<\/em><\/p>\n<p>[Students] have to learn that ideas do not exist until they have been incorporated into words.\u00a0 Until that point you don\u2019t know whether you are pregnant or just have gas on the stomach.<\/p>\n<p><em>On discipleship (848):<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&#8230;my influence is one thing, and I hope a good thing: discipleship, with its routine of did-he-really-say-this-or-that disputes, seems to be tedious, not to say sinister.<\/p>\n<p><em>On the death of God (871):<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&#8230;you can never get rid of God as long as you continue to use words, because all words are part of the Word. [&#8230;] A part of the consciousness which we\u2019ve been stuck with as human beings.<\/p>\n<p><em>On prying questions (871):<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Rasky: I wonder if I would be prying if I said, Does Northrop Frye talk to God?<\/p>\n<p>Frye: Yes.<em> <\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Selected Quotes from Interviews with Northrop Frye, ed. 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