{"id":3451,"date":"2009-09-30T23:23:52","date_gmt":"2009-10-01T03:23:52","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/fryeblog.blog.lib.mcmaster.ca\/?p=3451"},"modified":"2009-09-30T23:23:52","modified_gmt":"2009-10-01T03:23:52","slug":"peter-yan-two-responses","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/macblog.mcmaster.ca\/fryeblog\/2009\/09\/30\/peter-yan-two-responses\/","title":{"rendered":"Peter Yan: Two Responses"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong><em><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-3452\" src=\"http:\/\/macblog.mcmaster.ca\/fryeblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2009\/09\/archetype1.jpg\" alt=\"archetype1\" width=\"287\" height=\"276\" \/><\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>To Clayton Chrusch on &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/fryeblog.blog.lib.mcmaster.ca\/2009\/09\/30\/clayton-chrusch-archetype-a-mistake\/\" target=\"_blank\">archetype<\/a>&#8220;:<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Frye explaining \u201carchetype\u201d from \u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/books.google.ca\/books?id=URsOAAAAQAAJ&amp;pg=PP1&amp;dq=The+Stubborn+Structure#v=onepage&amp;q=&amp;f=false\" target=\"_blank\">Criticism, Visible and Invisible<\/a>\u201d, <em>The Stubborn Structure<\/em>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>It is true that I call the elements of imagery archetypes, because I want a word which suggest something that changes its context but not its essence. James Beattie, in \u2018The Ministrel\u2019 [poem]\u2026adds a footnote to the last phrase: \u201cGeneral ideas of excellence, the immediate archetypes of sublime imitation, both in painting and in poetry&#8221;&#8230; I\u00a0think of the term [archetype] as indigenous to criticism, not as transferred from <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Neoplatonism\" target=\"_blank\">Neoplatonic philosophy<\/a> or <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Jungian_psychology\" target=\"_blank\">Jungian psychology<\/a>. However, I would not fight for a word, and I hold to no \u201cmethod\u201d of criticism beyond assuming that the structure and imagery of literature are central considerations of criticism.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong><em>To Jonathan Allan on &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/fryeblog.blog.lib.mcmaster.ca\/2009\/09\/29\/jonathan-allan-writing-in-the-shadows-of-theory\/\" target=\"_blank\">theory<\/a>&#8220;:<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>As Frye said, the present revolution in criticism must exhaust itself, before the subject can be coordinated again. Too many contemporary theorists dismiss Frye because they want to fight: Marxist Crit, Feminism, Post-Structuralism are militant criticisms which bag whatever targets they try to hit; and when the game is short, they turn their target to literature. Frye\u2019s criticism sees literature as the language of love. Kuhn was right in a way that may have surprised him: if every age produces a paradigm which shifts, then <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Paradigm_shift\" target=\"_blank\">Kuhn\u2019s Paradigm Shift<\/a> is itself a paradigm which has shifted, and the direction is back to what Frye said all along: knowledge has continuity and repetition. If only the warring schools of criticism would drop their swords.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>To Clayton Chrusch on &#8220;archetype&#8220;: Frye explaining \u201carchetype\u201d from \u201cCriticism, Visible and Invisible\u201d, The Stubborn Structure: It is true that I call the elements of imagery archetypes, because I want a word which suggest something that changes its context but not its essence. James Beattie, in \u2018The Ministrel\u2019 [poem]\u2026adds a footnote to the last phrase: [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":21,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","_links_to":"","_links_to_target":""},"categories":[8,92],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3451","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-archetype","category-literary-criticism"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.2 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Peter Yan: Two Responses - The Educated Imagination<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/macblog.mcmaster.ca\/fryeblog\/2009\/09\/30\/peter-yan-two-responses\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Peter Yan: Two Responses - The Educated Imagination\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"To Clayton Chrusch on &#8220;archetype&#8220;: Frye explaining \u201carchetype\u201d from \u201cCriticism, Visible and Invisible\u201d, The Stubborn Structure: It is true that I call the elements of imagery archetypes, because I want a word which suggest something that changes its context but not its essence. 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