{"id":3816,"date":"2009-10-09T09:35:16","date_gmt":"2009-10-09T13:35:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/fryeblog.blog.lib.mcmaster.ca\/?p=3816"},"modified":"2009-10-09T09:35:16","modified_gmt":"2009-10-09T13:35:16","slug":"frye-and-oedipus-rex","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/macblog.mcmaster.ca\/fryeblog\/2009\/10\/09\/frye-and-oedipus-rex\/","title":{"rendered":"Frye and Oedipus Rex"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-3821\" src=\"http:\/\/macblog.mcmaster.ca\/fryeblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2009\/10\/bloodyeyes.jpg\" alt=\"bloodyeyes\" width=\"390\" height=\"268\" srcset=\"https:\/\/macblog.mcmaster.ca\/fryeblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2009\/10\/bloodyeyes.jpg 650w, https:\/\/macblog.mcmaster.ca\/fryeblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2009\/10\/bloodyeyes-300x205.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 390px) 100vw, 390px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Responding a little more to <a href=\"http:\/\/fryeblog.blog.lib.mcmaster.ca\/2009\/10\/06\/from-sophocles-to-spielberg\/\" target=\"_blank\">Russell Perkin&#8217;s last post<\/a>:<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Your &#8220;superstitious&#8221;\u00a0response to\u00a0teaching <em>Oedipus Rex<\/em> is understandable. I recall a workshop, where a teacher (after 30 years experience) didn\u2019t feel ready to tackle <em>Oedipus Rex<\/em>, which struck me as odd, seeing that the plot seems pretty reader friendly, as opposed to &#8220;writerly,&#8221; to use Roland Barthes\u2019s term. But now I know how deep the play is after applying Frye to it.<\/p>\n<p>Frye&#8217;s archetypal criticism effectively\u00a0places the work at the centre of the literary and social universe, where the Bible, Literature, Film, Popular Culture, Literary Criticism, Psychology, and Sociology orbit around it.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Bible:<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>Reuben sleeps with Israel\u2019s concubine (Genesis 35:22).<\/p>\n<p>Adam rejects the Sky Father to be with the Earth Mother.<\/p>\n<p>Jesus is the opposite of Oedipus: Oedipus kills Father and possesses mother sexually. Jesus obeys Father (Father kills son) and marries mother spiritually, as He\u00a0is\u00a0everyone\u2019s (The Church\u2019s) bridegroom.<\/p>\n<p>The curse and plagues and unknown suffering echoes Moses and the Pharoahs and Job.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Literature:<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>Countless stories of Father killing son, son killing father, incest, search for origins, prophecy: see &#8220;My Oedipus Complex&#8221; by <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Frank_O%27Connor\" target=\"_blank\">Frank O\u2019Connor<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Film:<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>Too many to count, but most popular include Killing of the Father (James Bond: <em>The World is Not Enough<\/em>, <em>Die Another Day<\/em>; Gladiator, <em>Star Wars<\/em>).<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Popular Culture:<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>The Rap song by Immortal Technique <em>Dance with the Devil<\/em> where gang initiation results in son raping and killing mother.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Literary Criticism:<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>The Oedipus myth is used as a critical term\/conceptual myth by Harold Bloom, in ways the writer writes (anxiety of influence) and readers read (misreading), both trying to kill off earlier influence.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Psychology:<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>Obviously, The Oedipus Complex. Even the 5 Stages of Grief (Oedipus goes through Shock, Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Acceptance) appear here first. And Jung\u2019s idea of synchronicity, or meaningful coincidence, is the basis of every literary action\/plot.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Sociology:<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>The search for the adopted parents, usually the father, is a major issue given the popularity and technology of sperm donors.<\/p>\n<p>Video of Immortal Technique&#8217;s <em>Dance with the Devil<\/em> after the break.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=qggxTtnKTMo\">httpv:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=qggxTtnKTMo<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Responding a little more to Russell Perkin&#8217;s last post: Your &#8220;superstitious&#8221;\u00a0response to\u00a0teaching Oedipus Rex is understandable. 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