{"id":4257,"date":"2009-10-20T16:58:40","date_gmt":"2009-10-20T20:58:40","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/fryeblog.blog.lib.mcmaster.ca\/?p=4257"},"modified":"2009-10-20T16:58:40","modified_gmt":"2009-10-20T20:58:40","slug":"northrop-frye-and-the-return-of-religion","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/macblog.mcmaster.ca\/fryeblog\/2009\/10\/20\/northrop-frye-and-the-return-of-religion\/","title":{"rendered":"Northrop Frye and \u201cThe Return of Religion\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-4265\" src=\"http:\/\/macblog.mcmaster.ca\/fryeblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2009\/10\/radical.jpg\" alt=\"radical\" width=\"200\" height=\"300\" \/><\/p>\n<p>In his recent response to <a href=\"http:\/\/fryeblog.blog.lib.mcmaster.ca\/2009\/10\/16\/michael-sinding-big-picture\/\" target=\"_blank\">Michael Sinding<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/fryeblog.blog.lib.mcmaster.ca\/2009\/10\/16\/re-big-picture\/\" target=\"_blank\">Michael Happy <\/a>quotes a passage from one of the <em>Late Notebooks<\/em> where Frye \u201cwonders with uncharacteristic despair, \u2018Why am I so revered but so ignored?\u2019\u201d\u00a0 In Michael\u2019s words, \u201cFrye was not merely superseded during the post-structuralist realignment, he was pushed aside with what can only\u00a0be taken as shows of\u00a0bad faith\u00a0through misreading and misrepresentation.\u201d\u00a0 Why was there such hostility, apart from the usual need to misread or discredit precursor figures?\u00a0 In thinking about this, it struck me that Frye had the bad fortune to publish his major late works on the Bible at precisely the time when literary criticism, under the sway of theory, had largely turned away from any notion of the religious, the transcendent, the spiritual, or the divine.\u00a0 From the late 1970s to the late 1990s the climate in literary and cultural studies was resolutely secular.\u00a0 Interestingly, one of the dominant theorists was the ex-Catholic <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Louis_Althusser\" target=\"_blank\">Althusser<\/a> (who might be thought of as the <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Auguste_Comte\" target=\"_blank\">Auguste Comte<\/a> of the twentieth century).\u00a0 Even in the study of religion, the emphasis was on the cultural and the material: I remember a friend who is a church historian telling me of the dominance of Marxist methodology in his own field.\u00a0 Edward Said, recently discussed by Michael Sinding and <a href=\"http:\/\/fryeblog.blog.lib.mcmaster.ca\/2009\/10\/18\/fryes-rule-of-thumb-follow-the-archetype\/\" target=\"_blank\">Joe Adamson<\/a>, referred to his own critical project as \u201csecular criticism,\u201d in the sense of criticism occupied with the world and its social and political relationships; in several published comments Said objected to the religious concerns of various other critics.\u00a0 Such a sceptical, this-worldly critical climate probably accounts for some of the hostile treatment of Frye that Michael mentions.<\/p>\n<p>From the late 1990s, there has been a return of religion in literary studies and theoretical discourse, but \u2013 and here I think is part of the source of Michael\u2019s frustration \u2013 Frye does not seem to have benefited very much from this development.\u00a0 I suggest that there are several reasons for this, and in attempting to articulate them I am also arguing that for many people Frye\u2019s work seems remote to the present horizon of discourse about religion.\u00a0 If it is going to play a larger role in that discourse, beyond the confines of what Michael Happy describes as \u201cthe comparatively small Frye community,\u201d I think there will have to be a fairly extensive effort of critical engagement, involving a willingness to think beyond the terms used by Frye himself.\u00a0 (Here I am agreeing with <a href=\"http:\/\/fryeblog.blog.lib.mcmaster.ca\/2009\/10\/19\/michael-sinding-big-picture-contd\/\" target=\"_blank\">Michael Sinding\u2019s comments <\/a>of 19 October.)\u00a0 I am writing as someone who might be described as standing with one foot in the Frye community, and one foot in the world of postmodern theology, and my aim is not to belittle Frye\u2019s work, but rather to suggest ways in which it needs to be critiqued and \u201ctranslated\u201d in order for it to play a greater role in both the study and the practice of religion in the twenty-first century.\u00a0 The problems that I think must be faced are<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>For Frye, in spite of his radical spiritual vision and distance from established forms of Christianity, the Bible was largely identical with the Bible of the Protestant evangelical tradition, that is, it was a book made up of various parts arranged in a specific order that told a specific story of creation, fall, redemption, and apocalypse.<\/li>\n<li>Frye\u2019s religious thought, however independent, is in some of its dominant themes and concerns strongly analogous to liberal Protestant theology of the mid-twentieth century, notably in its accommodation to secularization, its realized eschatology and its consequent emphasis on the social dimension of religion.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>The first thing I tell the students in my Bible and literature course is that the question \u201cWhat is the Bible?\u201d does not have a simple answer.\u00a0 For example, the Christian Bible is not simply the Hebrew scriptures of Judaism with the addition of a further twenty-seven books; the different ordering of the books in the Tanak points to a very different understanding of what scripture is and how it should be interpreted.\u00a0 Similarly, the canon of the Christian Bible differs, if only subtly, from church to church.\u00a0 Frye views the Bible as a single book, which tells a single story.\u00a0 But just as we are moving beyond the age of the book in culture as a whole, as texts can now be accessed in a variety of new ways in addition to the codex form which has dominated Christian history, so in religious discourse there is far greater sensitivity to theological differences and different ways of reading.\u00a0 A very simple example is the way that the terms \u201cBC\u201d and \u201cAD\u201d are no longer generally used in the study of religion, since they presuppose one particular view of world history.\u00a0 As an alternative to Frye\u2019s way of reading the Bible one can instance that of <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Robert_Alter\" target=\"_blank\">Robert Alter<\/a>, whose translations and commentaries pay minute attention to the particularity of individual verses and books, in the manner of both traditional humanist <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Philology\" target=\"_blank\">philology<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Rabbinic_literature\" target=\"_blank\">rabbinic commentary<\/a>.\u00a0 I think a literary approach to the Bible must take account of the radical divergence of approach of these two great scholars, and much of what I do in my own Bible and Literature course is the product of the juxtaposition of their work.\u00a0 The King James Bible may have been \u201cthe Bible\u201d for several hundred years of English literature, but before that period the Vulgate existed at the centre of a continuum of commentary and para-biblical texts, which all constituted \u201cscripture\u201d for the medieval writer, just as in the twentieth century Judaism has played an increasing role in literature written in English,<strong>* <\/strong>as have, more recently, other world religions.\u00a0 (And here, of course, Frye\u2019s discussion of Asian religion is of great relevance.)<\/p>\n<p>In the last decade, there has been a renewed interest in religious identity in literary criticism (for instance, the flourishing of scholarship on Catholicism in early modern England) and in theoretical discourse (e.g., Terry Eagleton, who started out as a radical Catholic, now is writing about religious topics again).\u00a0 Much of this interest in the sacred and the divine has come by way of postmodern theory.\u00a0 Frye was in some ways very much a Protestant of the mid-twentieth century in his religious thought: it was \u201csecular\u201d in the sense that he stressed \u201cthe human form divine,\u201d and emphasized non-ecclesial means of achieving religious experiences of community and spiritual vision.\u00a0 The postmodern theology of today, as instanced by the radical orthodoxy movement in the Anglican church, is consciously \u201cpost-secular,\u201d and emphasizes the role of church and sacrament, while at the same time being preoccupied with themes that are important in postmodern theory generally: the collection of essays entitled <em><a href=\"http:\/\/books.google.ca\/books?id=Kb9rdGF8tjsC&amp;dq=radical+orthodoxy&amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=IzMNEdja7x&amp;sig=pzrMGUngg_2VGYVHirucCbo7f-c&amp;hl=en&amp;ei=6uvcSvfZKIqXlAe34MyhAQ&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;ct=result&amp;resnum=2&amp;ved=0CBIQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&amp;q=&amp;f=false\">Radical Orthodoxy<\/a><\/em>, edited by several of the leading figures in the movement, includes pieces on \u201cErotics,\u201d \u201cBodies,\u201d and \u201cFriendship.\u201d\u00a0 Such theology begins with the assumption that postmodernism has nullified, or at least problematized, the enlightenment critique of religion.\u00a0 (And indeed there are a lot of moments when St. Augustine sounds rather like his fellow North African Jacques Derrida, something that Derrida drew attention to in the <a href=\"http:\/\/books.google.ca\/books?id=MFZgdN20Gv0C&amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;dq=intitle:Jacques+intitle:Derrida+inauthor:Bennington&amp;lr=&amp;as_drrb_is=q&amp;as_minm_is=0&amp;as_miny_is=&amp;as_maxm_is=0&amp;as_maxy_is=&amp;as_brr=0#v=onepage&amp;q=&amp;f=false\">book<\/a> he wrote with Geoff Bennington).\u00a0 Literature is important to postmodern theology; <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Rowan_Williams\" target=\"_blank\">Rowan Williams<\/a>, former Lady Margaret Professor of Divinity at Oxford and present Archbishop of Canterbury, recently published <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.ca\/Dostoevsky-Language-Faith-Fiction-Williams\/dp\/1441183884\/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1255992520&amp;sr=1-3\">a book on Dostoevsky<\/a>.\u00a0 Thus in both theology and literary studies, there has been something of a resurgence of Catholicism \u2013 recent Atlantic Canadian fiction would provide another example.\u00a0 Evangelical Christianity has also experienced a revival, as evidenced by the phenomenal success of the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.alphacanada.org\/\">Alpha course<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>All of the above may seem rather an anecdotal collage, but my point is that these examples are signs of the times, and that they are at least superficially at odds with the concerns and practices of Northrop Frye, especially his writings about the Bible and religion.\u00a0 If my account is granted at least some degree of plausibility, the question becomes in what way Frye\u2019s writings fit into the context I have described?\u00a0 In what way is he a religious or spiritual teacher for our time?\u00a0 I have to confess that I have no answer to that question at the moment; to help me look for one, I am currently reading Bob Denham\u2019s <a href=\"http:\/\/books.google.ca\/books?id=sCpWbGJ3VtgC&amp;pg=PP1&amp;dq=Northrop+Frye:+Religious+Visionary+and+Architect+of+the+Spiritual+World#v=onepage&amp;q=&amp;f=false\" target=\"_blank\"><em>Northrop Frye: Religious Visionary and Architect of the Spiritual World<\/em> <\/a>(2004).\u00a0 So far (which is not very far in) the book has confirmed my sense that Frye had little interest in what is conventionally termed theology in the Christian tradition.\u00a0 Given what seems to be a revival of that intellectual and spiritual tradition, I think it is going to take quite a bit of work to find the convergences with Frye\u2019s spiritual thought and practice.\u00a0 But the other thing that Bob\u2019s book has already made clear to me is that there is far more of a spiritual quest in late Frye than I had previously realized, even though I had read most of the Frye texts that Bob discusses.\u00a0 The question to answer is how those in different traditions of spiritual experience can make use of Frye\u2019s religious visions and blueprints of the spiritual world.<\/p>\n<p>_____________<\/p>\n<p><strong>*<\/strong> <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Geoffrey_Hill\" target=\"_blank\">Geoffrey Hill\u2019s <\/a>poetry provides an eloquent example of an increasing attention to Judaism by a poet writing from within the Christian tradition.\u00a0 Several of Hill\u2019s poems published in the 1960s are recognized as among the major British literary responses to the <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/The_Holocaust\" target=\"_blank\">Holocaust<\/a>.\u00a0 His recent poetry frequently incorporates references to Judaism and to the Hebrew language, for example, from <em>Without Title<\/em>: \u201cHebrew alone will serve \/ this narrative which is a broken thing.\u201d\u00a0 (Hill\u2019s wife, <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Alice_Goodman\" target=\"_blank\">Alice Goodman<\/a>, is an Anglican priest and a convert from Judaism.)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In his recent response to Michael Sinding, Michael Happy quotes a passage from one of the Late Notebooks where Frye \u201cwonders with uncharacteristic despair, \u2018Why am I so revered 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