{"id":4307,"date":"2009-10-22T00:00:29","date_gmt":"2009-10-22T04:00:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/fryeblog.blog.lib.mcmaster.ca\/?p=4307"},"modified":"2009-10-22T00:00:29","modified_gmt":"2009-10-22T04:00:29","slug":"matthew-griffin-frye-and-the-bible","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/macblog.mcmaster.ca\/fryeblog\/2009\/10\/22\/matthew-griffin-frye-and-the-bible\/","title":{"rendered":"Matthew Griffin: Frye and the Bible"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-4309\" src=\"http:\/\/macblog.mcmaster.ca\/fryeblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2009\/10\/great.gif\" alt=\"great\" width=\"216\" height=\"329\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Responding to <a href=\"http:\/\/fryeblog.blog.lib.mcmaster.ca\/2009\/10\/20\/northrop-frye-and-%e2%80%9cthe-return-of-religion%e2%80%9d\/\" target=\"_blank\">Russell Perkin<\/a>:<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Frye has been formative to how I read the Bible. Well before I ever went to seminary and sat through biblical studies courses (which are almost universally boring to anyone who&#8217;s had a bibliography course or two), it was obvious to me that the Bible was a set of widely disparate texts in a multitude of genres&#8211;some books even mishmashes of a half dozen different viewpoints and sources of history. I&#8217;m a product of my age, culture, and education, and as such I don&#8217;t find even remotely off-putting\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Benjamin_Jowett\" target=\"_blank\">Benjamin Jowett&#8217;s <\/a>then radical notion in <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Essays_and_Reviews\" target=\"_blank\"><em>Essays and Reviews<\/em> <\/a>that we should read the Bible like any other book. It should and does bear careful study. At the same time, I&#8217;ve been completely influenced by Frye, and read the Bible as a complete verbal structure (or universe) that is cohesive and consistent in its own peculiar and delightful way. The discussion on the blog the other day of first encounters with Frye made me remember buying <em><a href=\"http:\/\/books.google.ca\/books?id=g2k9AAAAIAAJ&amp;pg=PP1&amp;dq=The+Great+Code#v=onepage&amp;q=&amp;f=false\" target=\"_blank\">The Great Code<\/a><\/em> in Bryan Prince Booksellers a\u00a0dozen years ago, and smiling at how battered my copy is &#8212; and how many of those ghastly multi-coloured post-it tabs are sticking out of it! It\u2019s Frye\u2019s thought that has helped me to hold these two poles in a way that\u2019s allowed me some measure of ability for self-polyvalent reading.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>The experience of <em>kerygma<\/em> reveals an odd tension: it generates a revelation of the divine, the Holy Other, through the use of myth by the one experiencing the myth.\u00a0 Put another way, when scripture is read by believers to encounter God, metaphor is functioning because the story we read is at once the story of the faith of our forebears and our story.\u00a0\u00a0For example: the challenge I face with the composition of a funeral sermon is that, at its best, it seeks to take the stories of the deceased and to overlay them upon the story of our encounter with the divine in the person of Jesus: not to make the person out to be Jesus, but to help us to see how the person lived on the border of the holy in such a way as to reveal God to us.\u00a0 A funeral has the three tasks of celebrating the life of the deceased, mourning his or her passing, and proclaiming our hope\u2014and the preacher\u2019s noblest desire is to be a vehicle for the metaphor that shows how the story of the dead is at once the story of the dead and our story and God\u2019s story.\u00a0 This pastoral task is only possible if the stories of scripture do cohere in some way: if every story, indeed, is a vehicle for the divine.<\/p>\n<p>The challenge I face as I read and spend time with <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Radical_Orthodoxy\" target=\"_blank\">radical orthodoxy<\/a> and the like is that these \u201cnew\u201d forms of theology insist on a post-modern fragmentation of meaning and yet ultimately can\u2019t eschew the fact that there is a referent, that the many stories of scripture are one story of God\u2019s active presence and love in history. \u00a0(And here an aside: just as Frye argues that there\u2019s no such thing as a new form of literature, that each form is heavily dependent on the literature that informs it, I would myself argue the same thing about theology and theological movements.) \u00a0Yet there\u2019s a desire for eschewal that may explain the tension in the first of Russell Perkin\u2019s numbered points, and why people may move away from Frye.\u00a0 It\u2019s not a perspective that makes much sense to me, given that sensitivity to different lenses for reading, so very needed in theology, can\u2019t really move all that far from the one story&#8211;though we might focus on any one aspect, from honour\/shame dynamics to feminist criticism to <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Liberation_theology\" target=\"_blank\">liberation theology<\/a>\u2014without ceasing to recognise the myth being engaged as kerygmatic.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>I have one or two other challenges with what Russell writes.\u00a0 One is that I\u2019m not convinced that radical orthodoxy, to return to the example he used, really moves all that far from what he calls the <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Liberal_Protestantism\" target=\"_blank\">liberal Protestantism<\/a> that dominated the middle of the twentieth century.\u00a0 Radical orthodoxy\u2019s focus on social justice is more contextual and partnership-based than the earnest and somewhat patronizing way of living out the \u201csocial dimension of religion\u201d that marks Frye\u2019s era.\u00a0 Yet a realised eschatology\u2014\u201cthe kingdom of God is within you\u201d\u2014still marks our lives and the current context, and is at the heart of a renewed understanding of the <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Missio_dei\" target=\"_blank\">missio Dei<\/a> within the Church (see <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/David_Bosch\" target=\"_blank\">David Bosch\u2019s <\/a><em>Transforming Mission<\/em> for a better unpacking of that idea).<\/p>\n<p>For me, Frye has been a religious and spiritual teacher because his work continues to shape how I re-encounter scripture.\u00a0 I\u2019ll never forget reading his dismissal as silliness of the idea of trying to talk about what is true in the Bible\u2014clearly <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Bill_Phipps\" target=\"_blank\">Bill Phipps <\/a>didn\u2019t read enough Frye, back when he was the moderator of the United Church of Canada!\u2014and the corollary that the stories are truth: after all, truth is their genre.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Frye may not help me as I try figure out just what I\u2019m going to say on Sunday morning about the healing of <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Bartimaeus_(Biblical)\" target=\"_blank\">Bartimaeus.<\/a>\u00a0 He does help me to enter into that universe, though, and I think that\u2019s always the only possible first step in trying to share what I experience as good news.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Responding to Russell Perkin: Frye has been formative to how I read the Bible. 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