{"id":5470,"date":"2009-11-12T20:14:51","date_gmt":"2009-11-13T00:14:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/fryeblog.blog.lib.mcmaster.ca\/?p=5470"},"modified":"2009-11-12T20:14:51","modified_gmt":"2009-11-13T00:14:51","slug":"religious-knowledge-lecture-7","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/macblog.mcmaster.ca\/fryeblog\/2009\/11\/12\/religious-knowledge-lecture-7\/","title":{"rendered":"Religious Knowledge, Lecture 7"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_5535\" style=\"width: 315px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-5535\" class=\"size-full wp-image-5535 \" src=\"http:\/\/macblog.mcmaster.ca\/fryeblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2009\/11\/zampieri2.jpg\" alt=\"zampieri\" width=\"305\" height=\"432\" srcset=\"https:\/\/macblog.mcmaster.ca\/fryeblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2009\/11\/zampieri2.jpg 424w, https:\/\/macblog.mcmaster.ca\/fryeblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2009\/11\/zampieri2-212x300.jpg 212w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 305px) 100vw, 305px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-5535\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Zampieri, King David Playing the Harp<\/p><\/div>\n<p><strong>Lecture 7.\u00a0 November 18, 1947<\/strong><strong><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>For farming people the sacrifice was concerned with the cycle of crops.\u00a0 First it was the pastoral, hunting age of existence, the Stone Age.\u00a0 It was followed by farming, the new Stone Age. To tell this story, the Bible gives us Cain and Abel, the pastoralist and the farmer.\u00a0 The Bible deals symbolically with what we have dealt with historically.\u00a0 From the tillers of the soil come the village, the city\u2014the move from stone to bronze to iron.<\/p>\n<p>Out of the unity of social interests comes the unity of religion.\u00a0 Judaism and Christianity evolve out of a Mediterranean culture and religion.\u00a0 Palestine would be less independent than any other country because it is at the crossroads of the world.\u00a0 To expect a unique experience in Palestine would be like expecting New York to be invaded by wild Indians.<\/p>\n<p>Much of the pre-prophetic religion is obliterated because the Old Testament is founded on prophetic writings.\u00a0 Solomon\u2019s temple shows a generous mixing up of religious influences.\u00a0 His successors show that every king who Does Right keeps to Jehovah and every king who Does Wrong mixes cults, which include Moloch.\u00a0 There are hints of pre-prophetic religion in the story of Jephthah\u2019s daughter, and at the end of Judges are queer stories of an abominated religion.<\/p>\n<p>Samuel Book II, Chap. 21, describes an oracle system. When the famine comes one consults the oracle.\u00a0 David inquires because he is the king and therefore responsible for the famine as the principle of fertility in the society.\u00a0 It is a private prayer, but really an oracle.\u00a0 There is a feeling of divine vengeance for some crime, as in Greek tragedy.\u00a0 Because crime is unnatural, nature must right herself.\u00a0 It is the act of treachery of Saul that causes the sin that caused the famine.\u00a0 However, Jonathon\u2019s son is spared.<\/p>\n<p>Ideas persist of a human sacrifice at harvest to right the famine.\u00a0 The sacrifice originally is the tribe in communion as one man\u2013\u2013through the one man who symbolizes the unity of the tribe.\u00a0\u00a0 They enter into communion as one body.\u00a0 For the farmer, the blood becomes the vintage and the flesh the harvest. The man sacrificed becomes the regular recurrence of the cycle of nature as well as the unity of the tribe.\u00a0 There is <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">no<\/span> symbolism here; they <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">are<\/span> the body and the blood.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">IDEAS OF KINGSHIP<\/span><\/p>\n<p>The Israelite kings take on the symbolic attributes.\u00a0 The Israelites do not have kings for a long time; there is a distrust of state religion.\u00a0 The choosing of Saul is told twice in Samuel I, from the side of supporters and from the opposition side.\u00a0 The Israelites are aware of the lurking danger in the conception of a divine man, of the idolatry which is associated with the king.\u00a0 Saul is the biggest man in Israel.\u00a0 He is a great tragic figure, like Achilles sulking in his tent.<\/p>\n<p>David is the symbol of what a king is.\u00a0 The Judaic phase of the Pharisees and Maccabean rebellion is the time when the Psalms were gathered.\u00a0 The Psalms concentrate on the king, like King Arthur.\u00a0 Solomon is the king of a united nation.\u00a0 He and David are the Great Kings.\u00a0 They represent a man of peace and a man of war, the wise and the valiant kingship.\u00a0 There is a primitive idea in kingship that the king must humble himself and that any wrong to society must be his fault.\u00a0 David must humble himself; the wrong is his fault.\u00a0 In the Psalms, the cult of the king is so symbolic that the historical David has little to do with it.\u00a0 Psalms 2 and 110 show the cult of the divine king.<\/p>\n<p>There are two interpretations of kingship and therefore there must be a showdown between the spiritual and the physical king.\u00a0 In a monarchy, the literary king takes on qualities of a divine king, which will be interpreted in historical terms, e.g., the king will have the power to beat the Babylonians, etc.\u00a0 The issue must be forced between the divine and the physical king. As long as you have the King, the Temple, and a symbolic God, you will have a King to whom all of these qualities are attached.<\/p>\n<p>The showdown comes when a foreign enemy triumphs. (In the <em>Aeneid<\/em>, the defeat of the people means the defeat of the god that protects those people.)\u00a0 To get past the idea of <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">your<\/span> God to the <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">only possible<\/span> God, the chosen Son and the Chosen People, you have to take a big step.<\/p>\n<p>The Book of Lamentations is an elegiac poem on the fall of Jerusalem at the hands of Nebuchadnezzar. Chap. 19: the king is captured; he is their God and he\u2019s done for and so are they. \u00a0From Jeremiah on, the issue is forced more and more between symbol and the realization that the king must be a universal spiritual force.<\/p>\n<p>Trying to rebuild the Temple and the Monarchy in physical form is Judaism.\u00a0 That was the atmosphere when Jesus began his work.\u00a0 People were hanging on to the visible symbol and did not know what Jesus meant.\u00a0 All their hopes were bound up with the Temple.\u00a0 Jesus said, I will restore it in three days, meaning the temple of his body. \u00a0He is the man whose body is the whole people. \u00a0The real temple, therefore, is the body of God\u2019s people.\u00a0 The people are in the form of one man\u2019s body.<\/p>\n<p>This is the Old Testament idea of the doctrine of the divine man, the Son of God who is all his people in bodily form. \u00a0He is responsible for the calamities of the people.\u00a0 The king takes upon himself the miseries of the people.\u00a0 The idea of suffering is attached to the idea of the king; he is also put to death when his powers fail.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Lecture 7.\u00a0 November 18, 1947 For farming people the sacrifice was concerned with the cycle of crops.\u00a0 First it was the pastoral, hunting age of existence, the Stone Age.\u00a0 It was followed by farming, the new Stone Age. 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