{"id":5598,"date":"2009-11-23T23:19:06","date_gmt":"2009-11-24T03:19:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/fryeblog.blog.lib.mcmaster.ca\/?p=5598"},"modified":"2009-11-23T23:19:06","modified_gmt":"2009-11-24T03:19:06","slug":"religious-knowledge-lecture-10","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/macblog.mcmaster.ca\/fryeblog\/2009\/11\/23\/religious-knowledge-lecture-10\/","title":{"rendered":"Religious Knowledge, Lecture 10"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-5606\" src=\"http:\/\/macblog.mcmaster.ca\/fryeblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2009\/11\/amos.jpg\" alt=\"amos\" width=\"283\" height=\"343\" srcset=\"https:\/\/macblog.mcmaster.ca\/fryeblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2009\/11\/amos.jpg 283w, https:\/\/macblog.mcmaster.ca\/fryeblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2009\/11\/amos-247x300.jpg 247w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 283px) 100vw, 283px\" \/><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Lecture 10.\u00a0 December 9, 1947<\/strong><strong><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The key ideas are ritual and myth. The active side of religion is ritual, the ceremony, the religious act.\u00a0 The myth side is the explanation of a ritual, the religious Word.<\/p>\n<p>Ritual\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Act\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Ceremony\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 King<\/p>\n<p>Myth\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Word\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Doctrine\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0Prophet<\/p>\n<p>The basis of ritual is sacrifice, and this goes back to the idea of the substitute for the human sacrifice.\u00a0 The prophets come along with teaching so that the doctrine aspect is connected with the prophet.\u00a0 The pre-prophetic is ritual dependent upon the king. Now, the symbol becomes interpreted in mythic terms through the prophet.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">DEVELOPMENT OF PROPHECY<\/span><\/p>\n<p>The Psalms are the doctrine of the king in prophetic language.\u00a0 The prophets are concerned with the meaning of the ritual, an attempt to explain the true nature of the king.\u00a0 The king is the visible symbol of the larger human body, \u201csociety.\u201d\u00a0 He is the social body united in one man.\u00a0 At certain points, the prophets have a special authority to appoint kings or heirs apparent.<\/p>\n<p>The original motive for sacrifice is that the king\u2019s energy is that of the tribe.\u00a0 In pre-exilic prophets you get the feeling that the old king is not good enough.\u00a0 Isaiah is one prophet who has got beyond that mental tailspin.\u00a0 For him the source of inspiration is consciousness; he is the trusted adviser of the king.\u00a0 Mixed up with what he says is a criticism of what is going on in history.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">Isaiah Chap. 6, v. 8<\/span>:\u00a0 \u201cI heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for me?\u00a0 Then said I, Here I am; send me.\u201d\u00a0 But no one wants to be a prophet.\u00a0 Isaiah asks, How long will it be? It\u2019s no fun.\u00a0 In the same way, says Frye, the artist is wholly possessed by what he wants to say.\u00a0 Genius has nothing to do with sanctity or with whether or not the artist is good or bad.\u00a0 When he has genius, it possesses the whole of him and gives him the power to shape words as he wills.\u00a0 Yet the work of art itself is taking form; the artist releases what is being created.\u00a0 The sculptor sees the statue in the block of marble; it is not an act of will.\u00a0 There are always times when the artist, the prophet, is saying more than he knows.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">Isaiah 7: 10\u201312<\/span>: Ahaz represents conventional piety. \u201cI will not ask, neither will I tempt the Lord.\u201d\u00a0 This is the right answer, up to a point.\u00a0 But Isaiah takes up the idea of the \u201cgreat sign of the Lord thy God.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Isaiah speaks of the arrival of some new form of life, Immanuel, God with us.\u00a0 He speaks as if this is going to happen at once.\u00a0 In Chapter 8, Isaiah begets a child, and in the next chapter the arrival of this new life inspires him to say what is over Ahaz\u2019s head, and over the whole situation, too.\u00a0 He talks of a new king on the throne of David.\u00a0 He is talking about the real king here.\u00a0 In Chap. 2 he talks of the \u201clast days\u201d and the spiritual king who will restore the age of paradise.\u00a0 Still, there is not any doctrine here yet, which you could not match outside the Christian religion.<\/p>\n<p>Micah makes the famous statement of the prophetic position against the sacrificial cult. Chap. 6, 6\u20138: the utter uselessness of ceremony in itself.\u00a0 Even human sacrifice will not attract God\u2019s attention. \u00a0There is the conception of the blood of a child as a redeeming scapegoat.<\/p>\n<p>Will the Lord be pleased with thousands of rams, or with ten thousand rivers of oil? \u00a0Shall I give my firstborn for my transgression, the fruit of my body for the sin of my soul? \u00a0What does the Lord require of thee but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God.<\/p>\n<p>In Chap. 6, Hosea speaks a message of forgiveness, of the restoration of Israel through the love of God. \u201cCome, let us return to the Lord.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The pre-exilic prophets have the inspiration of the prophet and speak with consciousness.\u00a0 They condemn the moral evils of their community, the superstition, the mental attitude towards magic.\u00a0 But Amos is concerned with the paradox of the relation of God to his people.\u00a0 God has chosen one nation, and yet he is no respecter of persons.\u00a0 Amos denounces the neighbouring nations, and the audience loves it.\u00a0 He denounces Judah, the Southern Kingdom, and they still love it.\u00a0 Then, he turns and denounces the Israelites with the same voice.\u00a0 He acknowledges the uniformity of men, and yet retains the peculiar relation of God and Israel.\u00a0 To begin with, Israel means the larger human body, the concrete symbol of which is the King of Israel.<\/p>\n<p>The prophets are led from the contemporary situation and the feeling that their own country is exceptional to the conception of the King of Israel as the source of authority in Israel and of its health and improvement.\u00a0 The prophets, therefore, become frank advisers of the king and will not flatter.\u00a0 The feeling merges that only the king is authority and God works through him.\u00a0 The pre-exilic prophets idealized the King of Israel as the Prince of Peace.<\/p>\n<p>The paradox of a monotheistic state is seen in Amos where the hangover remains that God is concerned with the nation of Israel.\u00a0 This creates a difficulty that is not cleared up until the later prophets.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Lecture 10.\u00a0 December 9, 1947 The key ideas are ritual and myth. 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