{"id":6308,"date":"2009-12-22T08:00:37","date_gmt":"2009-12-22T12:00:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/fryeblog.blog.lib.mcmaster.ca\/?p=6308"},"modified":"2009-12-22T08:00:37","modified_gmt":"2009-12-22T12:00:37","slug":"religious-knowledge-lecture-12","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/macblog.mcmaster.ca\/fryeblog\/2009\/12\/22\/religious-knowledge-lecture-12\/","title":{"rendered":"Religious Knowledge, Lecture 12"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_6314\" style=\"width: 390px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-6314\" class=\"size-full wp-image-6314 \" src=\"http:\/\/macblog.mcmaster.ca\/fryeblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2009\/12\/2370-saint-george-killing-the-dragon-bernat-martorell.jpg\" alt=\"St George Killing the Dragon, Bernat Martorell, 15th century\" width=\"380\" height=\"612\" srcset=\"https:\/\/macblog.mcmaster.ca\/fryeblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2009\/12\/2370-saint-george-killing-the-dragon-bernat-martorell.jpg 634w, https:\/\/macblog.mcmaster.ca\/fryeblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2009\/12\/2370-saint-george-killing-the-dragon-bernat-martorell-186x300.jpg 186w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 380px) 100vw, 380px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-6314\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">St George Killing the Dragon, Bernat Martorell, 15th century<\/p><\/div>\n<p><strong>Lecture 12. <\/strong><strong>January 6, 1948<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">THE HERO AND THE PROPHET<\/span><\/p>\n<p>A distinction exists between two types of human beings: the hero and the prophet, and the relationship between them is of primacy importance.\u00a0 In the hero, humanity has projected a symbol of physical man fighting the forces of the power of darkness.<\/p>\n<p>The Bible contains all literary forms.\u00a0 It is the super-epic and it deals with the act of the hero.\u00a0 One of the key ideas is the struggle, with nature or with other men who symbolize the forces of nature.\u00a0 The development is the great archetype of the hero\u2019s struggle with darkness, such as the dragon, and the victory of light over darkness at every sunrise.\u00a0 The solar symbolism here is exhaustive.<\/p>\n<p>The Bible centres on a single heroic act: the struggle with darkness and the resultant victory.\u00a0 In medieval sculpture Jesus is pictured as dragon killer.<\/p>\n<p>The hero, or king, is not fully conscious of what he is doing.\u00a0 The hero is illusive, inscrutable, and therefore commands loyalty.\u00a0 Christ as the suffering hero has that illusive quality.\u00a0 There is a feeling of the distant hero who proceeds to inevitable fate and triumph in the \u201cheroic\u201d Christ who says \u201ctouch me not.\u201d\u00a0 The hero is too preoccupied with his action to know what he is doing, like Achilles brooding in his tent.\u00a0 The heroes are figures moving in a ritual, not in the myth, and they move with a silent and unconscious quality.<\/p>\n<p>The other type is the prophet who, in a sense, is the opposite.\u00a0 He has the disinterested view of humanity, and yet is articulate.\u00a0 He is not known for physical perfectibility and is likely to be stunted or deformed.\u00a0 He is the observer, the watcher, which the king is not.\u00a0 The man who is both hero and prophet is such a schizophrenic that he can\u2019t do anything.<\/p>\n<p>The hero and the prophet are different.\u00a0 The hero is the actor, the prophet is the articulate person who explains the myth.\u00a0 The poet, then, is the prophet.<\/p>\n<p>The hero is the centre of activity; the prophet is the circumference of activity\u2014the whole range of experience is in his mind.\u00a0 The hero is always \u201csomebody else,\u201d while the prophet is identical with ourselves because we have to go into his mind and make contact.\u00a0 All through humanity, in practise the hero and the prophet are separate.\u00a0 But ideally they are the same. \u00a0The hero\u2019s inscrutability is because he knows what is going on. \u00a0The prophet must be able to practice what he preaches.<\/p>\n<p>The priest is the intermediary, neither prophet nor hero. \u00a0He stands at the point at which the ritual and myth converge. The hero still triumphs but he will be killed.\u00a0 The prophet will become articulate but never causes.\u00a0 The poet who enters the social causal sequence contaminates himself.\u00a0 It is the priest who understands the myth and who performs the ritual.\u00a0 The thing done and the reason for it are understood by the priest.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>The function of the hero is to die for his crusade, but it is not the function of the prophet to die unless he becomes the hero. \u00a0Christ takes on aspects of prophet and king, and also priest, in the sense that he is the intermediary between man who suffers and a Father God who does not cause, although He has total comprehension.<\/p>\n<p>Man begins his life in this world as weak; intelligence is weak and power is stupid.\u00a0 He tries to assign intelligence to the power around him.\u00a0 He thinks that lightning must be the power of a god with man\u2019s intelligence but with more power.<\/p>\n<p>The function of art is to sharpen human imaginative conception of the world. \u00a0It is sharpened in epic, ballad forms which show the powers of darkness as dismal and stupid.\u00a0 The epic deals with the heroic act, human versus nature; that is, the physical world which presents itself to man as something to be overcome. \u00a0Man tries to develop the garden out of the wilderness, a city out of rock and desert, a river out of the sea, form out of chaos.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">Human<\/span> <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">Natural<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Garden\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Wilderness<\/p>\n<p>City\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Desert<\/p>\n<p>River\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Sea<\/p>\n<p>Intelligence\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Brutal power<\/p>\n<p>Form\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Chaos<\/p>\n<p>\u201cNormal,\u201d the norm\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Monstrous: power and chaos<\/p>\n<p>of existence, what<\/p>\n<p>is true of oneself<\/p>\n<p>In Exodus, the two great heroes, Moses and Joshua, are concerned with a heroic act. Moses is true to the epic hero who struggles against the wilderness and dies at the summit of his achievement.\u00a0 The Promised Land is both city and garden.\u00a0 The story behind this is that of Israel (a single man) versus a wilderness which can become the Promised Land.\u00a0 When the prophets foretell of a prophet-king, they talk in terms of killing a dragon, Leviathan.\u00a0 Isaiah 51: 9\u201310: the conquest of the sea is something which Isaiah takes us to.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Awake, awake, put on strength O arm of the Lord; awake as in the ancient days, in the generations of old.<\/p>\n<p>Art thou not it that hath cut Rahab and wounded the dragon? Art\u00a0 thou not\u00a0 it which hath dried the sea, and the waters of the great deep; that hath made the depths of the sea a way for the ransomed to pass over?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The dragon is a sea monster connected with the power of God which defeats the sea; he dries it up.\u00a0 Jesus\u2019 ability to command the sea and still the tempest is part of this.\u00a0 Chap. 27: 1: \u201ceven Leviathan the crooked serpent . . . .\u201d\u00a0 On the day of crisis, God will kill the dragon.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Lecture 12. January 6, 1948 THE HERO AND THE PROPHET A distinction exists between two types of human beings: the hero and the prophet, and the relationship between them is of primacy importance.\u00a0 In the hero, humanity has projected a symbol of physical man fighting the forces of the power of darkness. 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