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The creation is not in the past; the Last Judgement is not in the future; we must get a proper view of creation that isn\u2019t a projected sexual or artefact myth: when we get it the Last Judgement conception will clear up, & when that clears up there shall be a way open for a conception of life without birth & death that isn\u2019t either before birth or after death. (11f.29)<\/p>\n

Death is a process, not a condition.\u00a0 A stone is not dead: when did it die? (11f.66; see Great Code<\/em>, 157)<\/p>\n

It\u2019s only in nature\u2019s Heraclitean fire that time is irreversible.\u00a0 Hopkins is impressionist, he likes \u201cdappled\u201d things, because that preserves the sense of identical particulars while coming to terms with the dissolution of all form.\u00a0 But the resurrection isn\u2019t just a comfort, or even what makes the particular adamant or immortal diamond: it\u2019s something that stops the irreversibility of time.\u00a0 What is immortal is not the life we are going to live after death, but the life we have lived.\u00a0 The Resurrection must be retrospective<\/em>. (11f.98)<\/p>\n

Death is not the opposite of life; death is the opposite of birth.\u00a0 The new birth that Jesus spoke of to Nicodemus is also a release from death.\u00a0 Matthew & Luke have infancy narratives about a babe wrapped in swaddling clothes; Mark & John start with the symbol of the second birth through water & the spirit.\u00a0 Coming out of<\/em> the water with<\/em> the redeemed from<\/em> the dragon. (11f.144)<\/p>\n

I come back to the feeling that one\u2019s eternal existence is to be connected, not with where one is going after death, but with where one is at death. \u00a0(21.30)<\/p>\n

The total similitude of death turns into the particular point of light that turns similitude into the universal identity.\u00a0 That is what resurrection means now<\/em>. (21.473)<\/p>\n

Birth means death & consciousness means nothingness.\u00a0 Between birth & death you can help produce other bodily lives: between consciousness & nothingness you can help produce creative activity.\u00a0 Hence maybe the two poles of the Atman, Thou & That, can produce the new child-spirit who is also ourselves. (11e.7)<\/p>\n

The business of life is to make a path for the incarnation: the business of death is to make a path for the resurrection. (11b.31)<\/p>\n

My hunch is that grief of survivors, being so largely self-pity, distresses, perhaps even impedes, progress to a world that makes more sense.\u00a0 I know that she [Helen] would forgive me my sins of indolence and selfishness in regard to her, and therefore God will.\u00a0 I hope only that she knows now that I genuinely loved her very dearly, so far as human frailty permits.\u00a0 God bless, protect, and keep her among his own.\u00a0 I hope to see her again; but perhaps that is a weak hope.\u00a0 Faith is the hypostasis of what is hoped for, the elenchos of the unseen. The one thing truly unseen, the world across death, may, according to my principle, be what enables us to see what is visible. (44.170)<\/p>\n

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From Notebook 3<\/em><\/p>\n

[15]\u00a0 The Tibetans say that when you die you get a flash of reality (Chih-kai [Chik-hai] Bardo) that for everyone except a yogi saint is bewildering & unrecognizable, whereupon you pass into a plane of hallucination (Chon-yid Bardo) & then seek a womb of rebirth (Sidpa Bardo).\u00a0 I don\u2019t know about after death, but it\u2019s an excellent account of all other crises of the spirit, & so may be true of that one.\u00a0 So often it happens in meeting someone who needs help & can be helped (or encouraged) there comes a sudden flash of the right thing to do, the courteous & beautiful act, instantly smothered under a swarm of spawning Selfhood illusions of timidity, laziness, selfishness & the rest, whereupon the moment of what we rightly call inspiration passes, and we return to the ordinary level of existence.\u00a0 It\u2019s only rarely that we even recall having such a moment, & perhaps the capacity for having them could be destroyed.\u00a0 One of the major efforts of all discipline is to unbury the consciousness of the moment that Satan can\u2019t find, as Blake calls it.\u00a0 Hence the importance of achieving spontaneity, Butler\u2019s unconsidered control.\u00a0 In social relationships we always admire the person who acts, to quote Blake again, from impulse & not from rules, and we assume, however unconsciously, that such impulses can be trained to achieve adequate & accurate expression.\u00a0 That is perhaps why Jesus stresses the unconsidered life\u2014I\u2019m not thinking of the lily passage [Matthew 6:28] so much as the instructions to the apostles not to rehearse their speeches [Matthew 10:19\u201320].\u00a0 It is true, however, that the way of achieving such development is to concentrate on the present moment, which implies that all idealization or brooding over the past, and all idealization or worry over the future, are diseases of the soul\u2014hence the lily passage.<\/p>\n

[45]\u00a0 . . .\u00a0 The mystics also think in terms of an ascent, a ladder of development, usually to be completed after death\u2014well, that\u2019s the Catholic doctrine of purgatory, which seems to me an effort to adapt the doctrine of rebirth to Christianity.\u00a0 If I had to believe in either, I\u2019d choose rebirth, as purgatory as a set plane of existence different from this doesn\u2019t make sense\u2014Dante\u2019s purgatory is in this world, by the way.\u00a0 The Protestants identify the initial conversion with the final vortex, & I wonder if this Lankavatara Sutra I\u2019m reading, in spite of its traditional guff about a stock of merit accumulated for God knows how long, doesn\u2019t point in the same direction.<\/p>\n

[71]\u00a0 We speak of fruitful & sterile ideas, & it is perfectly true that ideas beget & reproduce like everything else alive, but it isn\u2019t just a linear Orc-reproduction: we want novelty, but we want too a consolidating form, a family appearing as a single Man.\u00a0 And while one shouldn\u2019t be a Thel, & should haul our ideas out into Generation & write books & take the bushels off our lights, still what really happens is simply a growth in<\/em> our minds, a turning from a centre to a circumference.\u00a0 Hence, really, all ideas are unborn.\u00a0 If there is no death there is no birth either, and of course no life.<\/p>\n

[95]\u00a0 When a man of eighty says he never felt better in his life everyone knows he has never been so near his death, but the statement may be true for all that.\u00a0 I used to think of people who never believed anything except on evidence or reasonable deduction therefrom as materialistically minded.\u00a0 Now I just think of them as stupid.\u00a0 That looks from outside as though I were getting bigoted & provincial, but I know I\u2019m not, or if I am it doesn\u2019t matter.\u00a0 Peace, it\u2019s wonderful.<\/p>\n

[119]\u00a0 Here is a speculation which probably makes no sense whatever: Christians & Buddhists have the same sense of escape from time, but the Westerner says we never die because he thinks of immortality as continuity of energy, & the Easterner says we have never been born because he thinks of immortality as release from karma or causation.\u00a0 But both are equally true, or untrue, whichever you like.\u00a0 When the Westerner tries to absorb the idea of unbornness, he tumbles into the \u201cpredestination\u201d pitfall; when the Easterner tries to get clear about deathlessness, he gets into the \u201creincarnation\u201d one.\u00a0 There are forms of these doctrines which make sense, of course: the ones that don\u2019t, the babies slated for hell & the there\u2019s-that-man (or beast)-again superstitions, illustrate the difficulty.<\/p>\n

[139]\u00a0 The Delphic oracle urged man to know himself, meaning not an increase of introspective knowledge, but the struggling of consciousness which at the same time apprehends the world more accurately.\u00a0 Dreams are subjective, but maybe a dream fully interpreted would become a vision.\u00a0 There must be a point at which it ceases to be true that it\u2019s a subjective experience.\u00a0 Dreams aren\u2019t Ulro nightmares: in general, man lives in G [Generation] during the day & B [Beulah] at night, as, perhaps he lives in G from life to death & in B from death to life.<\/p>\n

[146]\u00a0 The past is hell, the eternally fixed state where the ghosts of dead sins & errors are forever imprisoned.\u00a0 The future begins in childhood as a world of infinite potentiality.\u00a0 As life goes on, the future becomes steadily more predictable, & the life consequently less interesting.\u00a0 Children fascinate us; old men bore us because they conceal no surprises.\u00a0 At death the future finally merges with & joins the past\u2014in Dante\u2019s hell the future but not the present is known.\u00a0 Life reaches its crisis nel mezzo <\/em>del<\/em> cammina<\/em>, the sun at its highest in the sky, realizing with a shudder that it is bound to a cycle & must now descend.\u00a0 Hence the importance Jung attaches to the 35\u201340 period: its timing may depend partly on the length of the life, which of course the unconscious always knows.\u00a0 I think one has to be reborn now & start in fancy all over again in relation to a new kind of life, as though the sun at zenith were to think of itself as at the bottom of reality & start rising & straight up.\u00a0 That way, the imgn. [imagination] may grow stronger as the foolish body decays.\u00a0 The optimism I have inherited from my father, the feeling that next year things may be quite different & much better, should be conserved, though some of it is dodging.\u00a0 I have inherited another feeling, of wanting to get rid of things that are lost, or spoiled, or a bother, as quickly as possible instead of trying to recover or patch them up, & there is a certain danger of applying this to my own life & going off the deep end over reincarnation.\u00a0 This conception of hell as the past may be useful.\u00a0 Dante was psychoanalyzing himself, & straightening out the kinks in his character by analytic reduction, in going into hell.\u00a0 In connection with that, I suppose the psychological value of the doctrine of original depravity is in upsetting the smugness of the egocentric consciousness.\u00a0 The consciousness is transitory<\/em>, and we derive our idea of the present from it.\u00a0 Each dimension of time breeds fear: the past, despair & hopelessness & the sense of an irrevocable too late: the present, panic & sense of a clock steadily ticking; the future, an unknown mystery gradually assuming the lineaments of the consequences of our own acts.\u00a0 Hope is the virtue of the past, the eternal sense that maybe next time we\u2019ll do better.\u00a0 The projection of this into the future is faith, the substance of things hoped for.\u00a0 Love belongs to the present, & is the only force able to cast out fear.\u00a0 If a thing loves it is infinite, Blake said, & the act of love is itself a vision of a timeless world.\u00a0 Oh, God, how well I talk.\u00a0 Deteriora sequor.\u00a0 Or do I just say that because of an obscure feeling that such statements are somehow approved of by some atavistic God in my infantile shadow world?<\/p>\n

[149]\u00a0 Evidently the superego transforms the Ego-Id relation into an Ego-Tu one.\u00a0 The ego swallows its parents and puts them to guard the door of the Id.\u00a0 As obstacles, they\u2019re Satan & Rahab; as transparent, Los & Jerusalem.\u00a0 The ego, the reality-principle, deals with conflicts of truth & error; the id, the pleasure principle, with conflicts of good & evil.\u00a0 As opaque, the parents are narcissistic, reflecting the ego on itself, & also presenting the pleasure-pain values of the id in terms of a moral law of good & evil.\u00a0 Freud says that the id is inherited & the ego isn\u2019t; the superego, being the boundary, is a memory which may<\/em> be a revived inherited memory, Jung\u2019s archetype.\u00a0 Anyway, what the ego has to do is swallow its parents a second time, in their second or permanent death, & occupy their place.\u00a0 When it does so it is, in Jungian terms, the Self, between the ego & the id.<\/p>\n

[161]\u00a0 One should think of truth, not only statically as the correct formulation of propositions, but dynamically, as the normal current of the energy of the soul.\u00a0 These correspond to the allegorical & moral levels in Dante.\u00a0 A lie is to the intellect what a neurosis is to the emotions, a blocking point which dams up the current; a stone around which it forms whirlpools.\u00a0 Hence imaginative people who keep spinning spider-webs in their minds make the best liars, as they make the best use of neuroses.\u00a0 For vigorous extroverted people \u201cliving a lie\u201d is an intolerable burden, & confession for them has the quality of a physical compulsion.\u00a0 A great deal is said about the psychological rightness of Catholic auricular confession: as usual, the priest absorbs both the indwelling Christ & the social community.\u00a0 The point about \u201cknow thyself\u201d is to pervert self-deception, so that the lies one is obliged to tell in the interests of the persona<\/em> won\u2019t stay in the mind\u2014thus Johnson\u2019s \u201cclear your mind of cant.\u201d\u00a0 Probably one has to lie to men\u2014certainly to women\u2014but not to know that one is lying is to lie to God.\u00a0 Honesty with oneself carries off social lies in a private excretion.\u00a0 Honesty with others follows: you can\u2019t interpret James\u2019s \u201cconfess your sins to one another\u201d [James 5:16] as the Oxford Group does, because shitting in a group is a perversion, or rather a fixation of childish curiosity.\u00a0 One has always to remember the dynamic nature of truth, and hence of reasoning.\u00a0 \u201cMy father has money; I shall have it when he dies; I need money now; he must die now.\u201d\u00a0 Depending on the extent of one\u2019s capacity for parricide, that sequence may be anything from irrefutably logical to unthinkable.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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